I have seen multiple where that happens which is why I am asking Im not just pulling stuff out my ass lol. Meaning even with placeholders for whatever an error occurs. Just because the problem is not happen with you guys, does not mean it's not happening for others. Most people are using placeholders because a form was filled out or it was pulled from a database @User if your answer is Yes thanks - thats all i was looking for. But once again I am asking because others are saying they are having the problem. The problem is no different then the time being wrong with hardcoded variable - which more then 6 people said happen to them this week.