its super simple. There are people (not Alexi) using placeholders and still getting errors. i am not really sure how much more simple that explanation can get. I asked the question because he uses code and others don't. trying to find some correlation on why the error is happening. I dont know whatr the problem is - thats why I am asking questions. I don't think I have to explain that we all don't use/have the same set-up.