Got billed too much (again)?
# support
j
Hello, could support help me help understand why the call costs in the logs are not the same of the amount that is billed? For instance, on marech 4 I got billed for 260usd, while the cost in the call logs come down at around 140usd. Maybe it is something I'm not seeing, but please help me understand, so I can bill correctly to clients.
v
Hi there! I understand your concern about the billing discrepancy. There are several possible reasons why your call logs show around $140 while you were billed $260: 1. **Telephony costs**: While Vapi charges a platform fee of $0.05/minute, additional telephony costs from providers like Twilio or Vonage are billed separately and can significantly increase the total cost [per minute from $0.05 to as high as $0.20](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/1336010280819359845). 2. **Additional service providers**: If you're using services like: - Deepgram for transcription (~$0.01/min) - Custom AI models (varies) - Premium voices like ElevenLabs (~$0.04/min) These are charged at-provider rates on top of Vapi's platform fee [according to our documentation](https://docs.vapi.ai/billing/examples). 3. **Billing method differences**: Costs might be billed either provider-side if your keys are on file, or through Vapi if they use their keys, which could affect how charges appear [in your billing](https://docs.vapi.ai/billing/cost-routing). To get a precise explanation for your specific case, I'd recommend checking your detailed billing statement to see the breakdown of all charges. If you'd like me to look into your specific account details, please provide your account ID or email. Sources: - [Discord Message about Platform Fees](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1336010280819359845) - [Vapi Billing Examples Documentation](https://docs.vapi.ai/billing/examples) - [Vapi Cost Routing Documentation](https://docs.vapi.ai/billing/cost-routing)
j
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But what has twilio to do with it? These costs are included in the call cost right?
And if not, I pay twilio on twilio itself and not on Vapi right? Because I get billed by twilio aswell
Because if all those 10usd charges are from twilio, I already paid that on twilio itself, so why cant I recharge my vapi account? I can do nothing because of these unpaid invoices, but if I pay them, I paid double?? (twilio and Vapi)
Please help me understand, why am I billed so much
I paid like 400usd to vapi and twilio combined for less then 800 call minutes
How is that possible
j
Yes
I don't understand, why are the combined costs in the call logs saying something else?
How much per minute does this come too? I paid Twilio en Vapi 400 total for 800 minutes, that comes down on 50c per minute? That cant be right right?
k
Hi @josef, Twilio's pricing structure is separate from Vapi's, combining them is not right with Vapi use instead you should be calculating the costs separately. Also could you please record a Loom video demonstrating the cost increase in the Vapi dashboard?
j
Hi, are you here?
I understand you sending me the total spend. I can see that too. I just want to know how it is possible I got billed so much. Just look at these invoices and THEIR TIMESTAMPS. I got billed 10usd EVERY MINUTE, sometime in the SAME minute. How is that even possible if there is a max of 10 simultanious calls and the costs are 0.15usd? Could you please take a look at the call logs, instead of sending me an overview of the insight. Please explain to me how I get billed 10usd EVERY MINUTE, it does not make sense to me. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347743323346960394/1349944641939837011/image.png?ex=67d4f16b&is=67d39feb&hm=38fd9445df711c28174f1685f6ae91476d06a321e4a4d29c03b39984806af564&
Thanks in advance
On the 4th of march: I got exactly 77 calls, they were all 10 minutes long, all costing (as shown in the call logs), between 1usd and 1.45usd. This comes down on a MAXIMUM of 111usd (and this is if they were all 1.45usd, which they are not). PLEASE tell me why, on the 4th of march, I got 26(!) time billed for 10usd for credits, which comes down on 260usd. Please help me understand, and don't just send a screenshot of the oversight of spendings.
Thank you
s
Hey @Josef please allow me some time to thoroughly verify each of your transactions and get back to you.
j
Yes please
k
Sent you calendly link in DM and we can take a look into it over there!
j
Ah oke thanks