Cartesia voice exists in community voices but not ...
# support
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Hello I want to use the Cartesia "child" voice for one of my assistants in a squad. I can see the voice exists in the Cartesia library on Vapi. If I copy the ID and paste it in the voice settings of my squad assistant, it says the voice is not found. Why is that? You can see this in my attached screenshots https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360533126039994389/1360533126287462410/Screenshot_2025-04-12_at_10.28.38.png?ex=67fb76b6&is=67fa2536&hm=4cc6456cb500da78c1a43832a2d9728c23b8cd12b13d3b792083bb8234872b81& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360533126039994389/1360533126815813814/Screenshot_2025-04-12_at_10.29.08.png?ex=67fb76b6&is=67fa2536&hm=b75825207f71ae95d2416fedf1b8818a38b797380031f4ad822d60f25ba340c2&
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Hi there! 👋 I can see from your screenshots that you're having trouble using the Cartesia "child" voice in your squad assistant. I'm unable to determine the exact reason why this specific Cartesia voice isn't working in your case, but I can definitely help explain some potential causes and troubleshooting steps. Based on the information I found, there are several known issues that might explain why a Cartesia voice would appear in the library but not work in squads: 1. **SSML Parsing Limitation**: Vapi doesn't support SSML parsing with Cartesia, which could affect voice availability in certain contexts like squads [according to a Discord conversation](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1343913398999453708). 2. **Voice Selection Issues in Squads**: There appear to be some specific bugs within the squads' voice selection feature that users have reported [in Discord discussions](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1333363724307660861). 3. **Voice ID Mismatch**: There might be a mismatch between the voice IDs you're using and the ones available for the squad assistant setup [as mentioned in support conversations](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1333785780447084554). 4. **API Key or Permission Issues**: The voice might be associated with a private account or require specific API key configurations [according to user reports](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1339216932351643729). Here are some troubleshooting steps you could try: 1. **Verify the Voice ID**: Double-check that you're copying the entire ID without any additional spaces or characters.
2. **Add the Voice to the VAPI Dashboard**: Visit https://dashboard.vapi.ai/library/voice and click on the "Add" button to explicitly add the voice [as suggested in support threads](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1341102814591455353). 3. **Check for Filters**: Ensure there aren't any filters applied in the assistant settings that might be hiding the voice. 4. **Try a Different Voice Provider**: As a workaround, you might want to try using a different voice provider that's known to work well with squads. Would you like me to help you explore any of these troubleshooting steps in more detail? Sources: - [Discord conversation about SSML parsing with Cartesia](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1343913398999453708) - [Discord thread about voice selection issues in squads](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1333363724307660861) - [Discord conversation about voice ID mismatch](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1333785780447084554) - [Discord thread about voice ownership and API key issues](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1339216932351643729) - [Discord conversation about adding voices to the VAPI dashboard](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1341102814591455353)
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Ok, and what about this voice in PlayHT (Atlas), that doesn't appear in the squad voice settings either, and the voice ID seems to point to JSON file? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360533126039994389/1360576270597099771/Screenshot_2025-04-12_at_13.23.32.png?ex=67fb9ee5&is=67fa4d65&hm=178c6abc33fbdfe4cd9b6b64db02eb79d240643a63448cbe02fd95ca985210e6&
Would be good to clean this stuff up, its really complicated to pick a voice from the squads not knowing if it will work (and not being able to hear it) and then going to voice community and running into all kinds of mismatches...
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Hey Ouranos, Really sorry for your bad experience. Could you share the both of the voice ids so I could take a look? Sharing the voice ideas helps understand why Cartesia and PlayHD voices didn't work for you. Most likely without looking at the internal core database, my interpretation is these voices are owned by some organizations in VAPI so they are publicly visible on the voice library but aren't useful. So I have to check their org, and then I will let you know if you can use these voices or not. Really thank you for your feedback.
playhtn -> playhd\*
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@Shubham Bajaj here is the Cartesia ID : 2ee87190-8f84-4925-97da-e52547f9462c And here is the PlayHT ID : s3://voice-cloning-zero-shot/e46b4027-b38d-4d24-b292-38fbca2be0ef/original/manifest.json There also seems to be an issue in the voice community, where if I go to Cartesia voices, and type "Child" in the search bar, I end up with the same array of voices just replicated, like batches of 10 of them over and over. I have to refresh the page to get the original voices back
One suggestion would be to allow us to listen to voices directly in the squad voice picker, that way we are sure that what we pick is actually available
@Shubham Bajaj any thoughts on this? Thanks!
k
Hey, I was out of office for a couple of days, so couldn't take a look. Let me check the details now.
For the Cartesia voice, I suggest you use it directly through API. Most likely there is an issue with the dashboard, and thanks for sharing that child voice is getting repeated issues. I'll forward this to the team.
Hey Ouraners, it's a good idea to listen to voice directly in scored voice speaker. I suggest you to create a feature request for it. You can raise an feature request for it over here: https://roadmap.vapi.ai
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@Shubham Bajaj yeah the API approach doesn't really fix it, because if I copy/paste the voice ID from the community voice page, and then patch it in to my squad via API, it still isn't recognized. I put in the feature request. Thanks
k
Hey, even after putting it through API, it's not recognizing the voice. Could you share the call ID related to it?
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@Shubham Bajaj I just looked at the UI again, and both voices that were not there last week are not in the UI and working, so it looks like the problem was solved
k
Thanks for sharing the update with me, and I am marking these tickets as solve.