First message is considerede ''silence'' from the ...
# support
m
so if it's longer than timeout seconds, it ends the call even when the customer didn0t have the time no answer the question
v
Hi there! 👋 I understand your concern about the first message being considered "silence" and causing premature call termination. While I don't have specific information about why the first message is being treated as silence, I can definitely help with adjusting timeout settings to prevent premature call termination. According to the [documentation](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1339941602872918068), Vapi has several timeout settings that can be configured to prevent calls from ending too quickly: 1. Adjust the
timeoutSeconds
setting
- This property in the Vapi
Server
class has a default value of 20 seconds and can be set anywhere between 1 and 120 seconds. Increasing this value would give your customers more time to respond. 2. Configure
silenceTimeoutSeconds
- This setting affects how long the system waits for speech before taking action. If it's set too low, it could cause premature call termination when customers don't speak immediately. 3. Modify
machineDetectionSilenceTimeout
- This parameter (currently set to 6000 milliseconds or 6 seconds) determines how long the system waits before considering silence as the end of speech. Increasing this value might help in your situation. For your specific issue, I'd recommend: - Increasing the
timeoutSeconds
setting to give customers more time to respond - Reviewing your endpointing configuration, as [Vapi uses audio-text models](https://discord.com/channels/1211482211119796234/1211483291191083018/threads/1344633027925377064) to determine when a user has finished speaking - Checking if you have custom silence timeout messages configured that might be affecting behavior You can also use custom endpointing rules to instruct the pipeline to pause for user input for a specific duration, ensuring your assistant doesn't respond prematurely. Is there anything specific about these timeout settings you'd like me to explain further? Sources:
m
yes, but why the first message is considered siklence from the customer? it should be considered as firstmessage, obviously the customer isn't talking in that time. i notices that last week i uses even longer firstMessage phrases but din't face this problem, thank you
@Vapi all the calls have now this problem, thabk you
s
Hey, Could you rephrase your issue I couldn't understand and possibly share an example so I can understand better? Also, please share the call ID so I can continue my investigating further.
m
so, when the agent says the first message, it completes all the message. if this message is larger than 15 seconds, and the timeout silence is set to 15 seconds, when it ends the message, it reaches the 15 seconds, so the customer cannot even say anithing: - asistant start message and say the first - 15 seconds passes - when the customer want to say something, the timeout limit is already reached, so the call ends itself
before this week, the firstmessage duration was not considered for timeout silence
this is the ticket you were looking for? thank you
Hello! https://dashboard.vapi.ai/calls/565f3e67-859f-457c-8f9a-12ad3df3efe5 565f3e67-859f-457c-8f9a-12ad3df3efe5 (modificato) 9:57 https://dashboard.vapi.ai/calls/a9fe8df8-a31a-42db-b166-999f8200f876 a9fe8df8-a31a-42db-b166-999f8200f876 9:57 https://dashboard.vapi.ai/calls/e6385df1-7c5a-44e0-89df-64a6b400a975 e6385df1-7c5a-44e0-89df-64a6b400a975
@Shubham Bajaj
s
Your calls have been shared with the team for investigation. I'll let you know once I get any updates.
Hey, @mmvohra. could you please try making two-three test calls and?, and Let me know how it goes for.
m
hello! thank you very much, i saw a couple of tests and i think it's ok now, thank you
s
awesome.